Ticket #1 during 252393 on Manuel

Ticket Opened by thranos 2025-05-20 02:47:44

Last round, Dane McDonohugh the Botanist was making a ton of maxpot deathnettles and bluespace tomatoes, the latter of which he was tossing at people in the halls for some reason. I assumed he was an antag, but roundend says otherwise. Also, Monty Elliot the Geneticist kept hulking out and attacking sec + smashing through walls and such, again nonantag, and again assumed they were an antag until I saw roundend report.

00:06:35

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 02:54:19

aye aye aye, I didn't appreciate ya breaking down the things I was looking at when you were doing getting your valid upon them. There is an issue of Ahelping and then resolving them also in IC. Don't do both and pick one.

00:02:49

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 02:57:08

I was trashing their trays so they would stop making a morbillion BS tomatoes to be annoying with, not "to get my valids". Nor is griefing (which is what it looked like) an issue that can be "resolved IC". Nor did I ahelp last round about them, so how exactly could I have "ahelped and then resolved the issue IC"?

00:03:03

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:00:11

no, you are doing an ahelp ticket and then also resolving the issue IC via rule 4 when admins are chatting with them. Please do one or the other, don't do both if its not a clear sign from the admin to stick to IC.

00:01:00

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:01:11

What are you talking about??? This was LAST ROUND. I didn't ahelp them last round. [4. Lone antagonists are unbound by (most) rules.]?????? You're not making any sense

00:02:00

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:03:11

did you want me to pull up the tickets? How many times you try to kill that AI when you were a non-human? things like this. I realize that and was okay with you killing the botanist with that roller pin after security used disabler beams. But to be honest, that is an IC solution, I am not sure why you ahelped it after the fact.

00:00:29

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:03:40

I- what? This ticket isn't about the AI.

00:00:13

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:03:53

The ticket about the AI was last round, and was closed.

00:00:48

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:04:41

I didn't "resolve the issue IC" with the AI last round, either.

00:00:16

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:04:57

I welded off like three walls and surrendered to the CE.

00:00:25

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:05:22

this ticket is really about all of last round as a whole. If you want to ask permission to resolution things IC, then thats one thing to get around the stay in your lane. But its whole different topic to ahelp something that clearly a rule 1 break of griefing, the next round and you resolved by killing them last round.

00:01:08

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:06:30

I ahelped the Botanist and Geneticist because I saw they weren't antags and had been doing shit that was absolutely antag-level. This ticket is not about "last round as a whole", and I don't know where you're getting that. Nor did I "resolve it IC", as the Botanist was revived and released by sec and continued to make BS tomatoes, and I never fought the Geneticist at all.

00:00:15

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:06:45

CE also was not a great point for you either. I understand why you killed them and yelled out on the radio that syndicate for having the syndicate elite modsuit. Every time after that kept compounding an issue that made the game unfun for them and you were the clown. So is this an ahelp about them, what to do or are you trying to commit to keeping things IC as you have been doing?

00:01:10

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:07:55

I do appreciate ahelps and direction, but you cannot IC resolve them if you are under the impression that the ooc rules are being broken. So hold back on that if you please.

00:00:07

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:08:02

This ticket is not about the CE. I never mentioned the CE. I never mentioned the AI. This ticket is not about the AI either. Why are you doing this?

00:00:55

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:08:57

I had a ton of tickets around you in particular. I saw that most of it was IC, but now we are in ahelp ticket the next round and that doesn't sit right with me.

00:01:22

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:10:19

Why are you just ignoring everything I've said and repeatedly bringing up unrelated topics in this ticket? This is about two players doing things unrelated to me outside of the one or two times I ran into them IC, in which I didn't "handle it IC", nor did I "ahelp and try to handle IC" (as I didn't ahelp them last round).

00:02:21

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:12:40

I am sorry, you resolved botanist IC with a rolling pin and stamcrit and then whatever killed the CE multiple times. Was there anything else you wanted to chat about?

00:00:24

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:13:04

YES THE THINGS I INITIALLY AHELPED INSTEAD OF ALL THESE RANDOM ACCUSATIONS YOU PULLED INTO THE TICKET FOR NO REASON?

00:00:47

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:13:51

The Geneticist who kept hulking out and attacking sec and smashing walls, nonantag. The Botanist, WHO WAS HEALED and eventually served time in sec after I rolling pinned them AND KEPT MAKING MORE BS TOMATOES.

00:01:28

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:15:19

just to clarify for this ticket, how were they resolved? You were there and making jokes about the interaction.

00:02:07

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:17:26

Security (Jeff Gaiman) gunned down the geneticist for like the eighth time at escape because he attacked them again, and left him to rot. The Botanist was fried by the AI's plasmaflood, trapped in botany after he barricaded it from the inside to stop sec from easily raiding him again. Is that what you mean by resolved?

00:00:36

Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:18:02

And again, I didn't ahelp either of these people last round because I assumed they were outright antags due to the things they were doing.

00:00:53

Reply from iansdoor 2025-05-20 03:18:55

I am not going in circles about this. If you deal with someone IC while ahelping it. please stick to one method unless you are ahelping to resolve it IC without serious pushback towards the rules.

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Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:19:25

I DID NOT FUCKING DEAL WITH THEM IC I DID NOT AHELP THEM

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Reply from thranos 2025-05-20 03:19:25

I DID NOT FUCKING DEAL WITH THEM IC I DID NOT AHELP THEM

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[b]From Ticket #1 during round [url=https://statbus.space/round/252393]252393[/url] on manuel:[/b]

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2025-05-20 02:47:44: [color=#0000FF]Ticket Opened by thranos: Last round, Dane McDonohugh the Botanist was making a ton of maxpot deathnettles and bluespace tomatoes, the latter of which he was tossing at people in the halls for some reason. I assumed he was an antag, but roundend says otherwise. Also, Monty Elliot the Geneticist kept hulking out and attacking sec + smashing through walls and such, again nonantag, and again assumed they were an antag until I saw roundend report.[/color]
2025-05-20 02:54:19: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: aye aye aye, I didn't appreciate ya breaking down the things I was looking at when you were doing getting your valid upon them. There is an issue of Ahelping and then resolving them also in IC. Don't do both and pick one.[/color]
2025-05-20 02:57:08: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I was trashing their trays so they would stop making a morbillion BS tomatoes to be annoying with, not "to get my valids". Nor is griefing (which is what it looked like) an issue that can be "resolved IC". Nor did I ahelp last round about them, so how exactly could I have "ahelped and then resolved the issue IC"?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:00:11: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: no, you are doing an ahelp ticket and then also resolving the issue IC via rule 4 when admins are chatting with them. Please do one or the other, don't do both if its not a clear sign from the admin to stick to IC.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:01:11: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: What are you talking about??? This was LAST ROUND. I didn't ahelp them last round. [4. Lone antagonists are unbound by (most) rules.]??????

You're not making any sense[/color]
2025-05-20 03:03:11: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: did you want me to pull up the tickets? How many times you try to kill that AI when you were a non-human? things like this. I realize that and was okay with you killing the botanist with that roller pin after security used disabler beams. But to be honest, that is an IC solution, I am not sure why you ahelped it after the fact.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:03:40: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I- what? This ticket isn't about the AI.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:03:53: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: The ticket about the AI was last round, and was closed.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:04:41: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I didn't "resolve the issue IC" with the AI last round, either.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:04:57: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I welded off like three walls and surrendered to the CE.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:05:22: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: this ticket is really about all of last round as a whole. If you want to ask permission to resolution things IC, then thats one thing to get around the stay in your lane. But its whole different topic to ahelp something that clearly a rule 1 break of griefing, the next round and you resolved by killing them last round.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:06:30: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I ahelped the Botanist and Geneticist because I saw they weren't antags and had been doing shit that was absolutely antag-level. This ticket is not about "last round as a whole", and I don't know where you're getting that. Nor did I "resolve it IC", as the Botanist was revived and released by sec and continued to make BS tomatoes, and I never fought the Geneticist at all.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:06:45: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: CE also was not a great point for you either. I understand why you killed them and yelled out on the radio that syndicate for having the syndicate elite modsuit. Every time after that kept compounding an issue that made the game unfun for them and you were the clown. So is this an ahelp about them, what to do or are you trying to commit to keeping things IC as you have been doing?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:07:55: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: I do appreciate ahelps and direction, but you cannot IC resolve them if you are under the impression that the ooc rules are being broken. So hold back on that if you please.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:08:02: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: This ticket is not about the CE. I never mentioned the CE. I never mentioned the AI. This ticket is not about the AI either. Why are you doing this?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:08:57: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: I had a ton of tickets around you in particular. I saw that most of it was IC, but now we are in ahelp ticket the next round and that doesn't sit right with me.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:10:19: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: Why are you just ignoring everything I've said and repeatedly bringing up unrelated topics in this ticket? This is about two players doing things unrelated to me outside of the one or two times I ran into them IC, in which I didn't "handle it IC", nor did I "ahelp and try to handle IC" (as I didn't ahelp them last round).[/color]
2025-05-20 03:12:40: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: I am sorry, you resolved botanist IC with a rolling pin and stamcrit and then whatever killed the CE multiple times. Was there anything else you wanted to chat about?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:13:04: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: YES THE THINGS I INITIALLY AHELPED INSTEAD OF ALL THESE RANDOM ACCUSATIONS YOU PULLED INTO THE TICKET FOR NO REASON?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:13:51: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: The Geneticist who kept hulking out and attacking sec and smashing walls, nonantag. The Botanist, WHO WAS HEALED and eventually served time in sec after I rolling pinned them AND KEPT MAKING MORE BS TOMATOES.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:15:19: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: just to clarify for this ticket, how were they resolved? You were there and making jokes about the interaction.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:17:26: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: Security (Jeff Gaiman) gunned down the geneticist for like the eighth time at escape because he attacked them again, and left him to rot.

The Botanist was fried by the AI's plasmaflood, trapped in botany after he barricaded it from the inside to stop sec from easily raiding him again.

Is that what you mean by resolved?[/color]
2025-05-20 03:18:02: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: And again, I didn't ahelp either of these people last round because I assumed they were outright antags due to the things they were doing.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:18:55: [color=#FF0000]Reply from iansdoor: I am not going in circles about this. If you deal with someone IC while ahelping it. please stick to one method unless you are ahelping to resolve it IC without serious pushback towards the rules.[/color]
2025-05-20 03:19:25: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I DID NOT FUCKING DEAL WITH THEM IC I DID NOT AHELP THEM[/color]
2025-05-20 03:19:25: [color=#0000FF]Reply from thranos: I DID NOT FUCKING DEAL WITH THEM IC I DID NOT AHELP THEM[/color]
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